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27 June 2008 @ 09:00 am
So which ones of you are going to Portus? *is making nifty planning spreadsheet thing*
Bambu: Quips Embrace Lifebambu345 on June 27th, 2008 02:15 pm (UTC)
Me, me, me!

I've just started putting the itinerary together last night, and I'm going to get one of the boys to take a picture of me so I can follow Cilla's example and post my stats, as well as SnarkyWench's.

Jas, I've finally become very excited about this. It's the second vacation I've ever taken just for myself.
Gelsey: donkey *happy dance*gelsey on June 27th, 2008 02:18 pm (UTC)
I'm doing my itinerary nownow. Trying to decide what things I want to go to during the days as well, during the actual event.

Am going to have trouble taking a mugshot of myself. Besides, I look horrid today -- hair needs washing (waaaaiiiting for my AC to come back to wash the hair, repairman coming soooooooon) and I'm in a skimpy tanktop with a swimsuit top on under *rolls eyes at self*

I'm excited too. Yay Portus.
Bambubambu345 on June 27th, 2008 04:01 pm (UTC)
We went through the programming list the other night and have put together a schedule of some of the presentations/workshops/roundrobins we'd be interested in seeing/doing, but we're also pretty flexible.

Yay for the A/C man coming! I wilted last weekend, it was so hot, so I know you'll feel better after it's working properly.

And now, I'm off to wake the kids because we're headed for the beach today!
Gelseygelsey on June 27th, 2008 04:12 pm (UTC)
I have a tentative list, I think, but we'll see how it goes. I might ditch something for something else, though there's a couple of things I'm more gungho on. Am hoping to network a little, somehow.

At least today is cooler, breezier, and cloudier than yesterday. They're getting a motor and everything and it'll be fixed sometime today I think. Which will be great, as I'll be able to sleep again. Cause I am so tired. Already.
Bambu: Seasons Summerbambu345 on June 28th, 2008 07:18 am (UTC)
I want to do both writing workshops (worldbuilding and memorable characters,) but we'll see.

Good thing they've fixed your A/C ... even if it's cooler weather now, in two weeks it'll heat up again.
Gelseygelsey on June 28th, 2008 03:26 pm (UTC)
I have those on my list, though the worldbuilding one is more important to me than the characters one. I should likely do both though.

Mmmhmm. Though ironically enough, it got so cold in there after it came on that I had to shut it off until just before bed. O.o lol
Bambubambu345 on June 28th, 2008 04:14 pm (UTC)
I agree about the workshops. I have done some research about world-building, but I'd like to supplement it. The character workshop could be fun, and I'd like to see what sort of character mock-up/worksheet the presenter uses.

Perhaps your A/C had been failing for some time and you never noticed it. I love the irony, however. It's rather amusing.
Gelseygelsey on June 28th, 2008 04:18 pm (UTC)
For some reason, research on how to do a lot of writing stuff stresses me out. Mostly I just go with what I feel is right, and world building has always been one of the funnest things EVER for me. I agree about the character worksheet :)

That could very well be. But it's all fixed now and I'm back to being cold. Which is amusing, yes. lol
Bambubambu345 on June 28th, 2008 09:23 pm (UTC)
I find it a bit overwhelming, not to mention intimidating to think I need to keep all that in mind as I write a simple short story. Having said that, too, if it's going to be a longer story, then there needs to be a bit more thought put into it. If the ocean's is green, it means the sun's a little orange, which then means it's older than earth's. All of that affects flora and fauna, but not necessarily enough to make the atmosphere inimical to humans.

Still, it's always good to listen to what a published author has to say.

Gelseygelsey on June 28th, 2008 09:34 pm (UTC)
Mmmmmm, true. I suppose I don't usually worry about the science behind things. I usually end up writing some form of fantasy. But you're right if you want to get into the science behind things.

Nodnod. I was going to talk to some of the authors I'm sure will be there, I think, so long as my shyness doesn't suddenly spring to the front.
Bambu: Fantasy Dragonbambu345 on June 29th, 2008 12:48 am (UTC)
It's not necessarily that I'm writing science fiction, but it seems that there has to be some degree of congruence in the worldbuilding so that you're anchored solidlyin that verse. Of course, fantasy can be anything one chooses, but I also think that when the world is too alien readers aren't as comfortable in it as they could be.

I think shyness is part of being a writer, actually. We're not necessarily 'joiners' by nature.
Gelseygelsey on June 29th, 2008 12:52 am (UTC)
Well, I don't know. I think it depends. I think if something is presented in the right manner, such as stated in a matter-of-fact fashion or incorporated fully and isn't questioned by the characters, it doesn't have to be explained or something of the sort. I don't know -- my brain is refusing to function at the level I need to explain myself.

But then, I'm also someone who has the ability to suspend disbelief in ways some people don't always do. So I don't know. Either way, I'm interested in seeing how other people do it.

Lol. True, true. Many of the authors' blogs I read seem to show the same trend.
Bambubambu345 on June 29th, 2008 04:54 pm (UTC)
You make an excellent point, regardless of how tired your brain is. I'm not sure I expressed myself clearly either -- and these are the sorts of discussions which are better had in person anyway -- but it seems to me that any world an author created must be congruent within its own parameters. Having said that, if those parameters encompass familiarity with the known 'verse then it's easier for an audience to slip into that world.

I'm only willing to suspend my belief so far ... after it's stretched too many times for the writer's convenience alone, then I lose my patience.

I really can hardly wait to chat with you about some of this stuff!
Gelseygelsey on June 29th, 2008 05:00 pm (UTC)
Nod, they are. Though I warn you that I tend to ramble and chatter once I get going. I suppose I'm drawing upon books like Sunshine by Robin McKinley and The Dresden Files by Jim Butcher and countless others, up to and including The Host by Stephanie Meyer. (Okay, so these are all some of my very favourites, but yeah ;) )

I tend to just go with things most of the time. I'm frightfully easy to amuse. I'm not sure I've put down a book in the last couple of years, at least, due to belief issues -- grammar and punctuation are a different story ;)

Me too! :D
Bambubambu345 on June 30th, 2008 01:45 pm (UTC)
Robin McKinley does a very good job of her world-building and I haven't read Butcher yet -- although I've heard some excellent things about Harry Dresden. My older son just picked up the book.

Grammar and punctuation ... I used to be far less discerning than I am now, but I'm finding more and more than poor grammar and punctuation (beyond little errors) really lessen my enjoyment of a story. That didn't used to happen at all.

Funny, isn't it?
Gelseygelsey on June 30th, 2008 03:40 pm (UTC)
I am one of Dresden's biggest fans, LOL. I adore the series utterly and completely. <333

Nod. I know where you're coming from. Beyond those errors, I'll usually suspend my belief and read the entire story, and then pick it apart later. I'll enjoy it while I read it, and then nitpick afters.

I think the more we end up doing it, the more we end up learning what doesn't work/we don't like and so we criticize more.
Bambubambu345 on July 1st, 2008 02:27 pm (UTC)
Then I shall have to grab a copy of Butcher's book -- maybe to read on the plane?

I'm fairly well able to make it through a book, noticing the mistakes along the way, but if I find myself mentally rearranging an author's words too often, I'll give the book up. I worried for awhile that I'd done too much beta'ing, but since I've recently read eight or nine books without having that itch to re-write paragraphs, I know it's not just me.

Gelseygelsey on July 1st, 2008 03:33 pm (UTC)
Hehehe. My plot for world domination to get get everyone to read his books is going strong!

(I cannot tell you how many people I've given his books to. And I only own his first one, courtesy of redvelvetcanopy)

I don't think it's too much betaing. I think good writing and a good editor means that I find only one technical error or so per book, and that I'm not constantly wishing they'd reworded something.
Bambu: Writing for the Trashcanbambu345 on July 1st, 2008 08:36 pm (UTC)
Well, I suspect a run to the bookstore is in order -- tomorrow actually. It'll be a good one to read on the plane to Dallas -- and I can tell you all about it.

I agree with you about good writing and good publishing/editing. There should be few errors (although some will slip through, it's inevitable) so that the reader isn't distracted from the story. If you find yourself rewording the author too much, then they've lost you.
Somigliana: Hufflepuff Badgersomigliana on June 27th, 2008 11:09 pm (UTC)
You used that icon on purpose!

That being said.


Gelsey: ravenclawgelsey on June 28th, 2008 03:26 pm (UTC)

Of course you, precious.
Subversa: Albus the Albatrosssubversa on June 28th, 2008 09:23 am (UTC)
Me Me Me Me Me Me ME!

I'm staying at the Anatole and rooming with Keladry Lupin.
Gelseygelsey on June 28th, 2008 03:27 pm (UTC)
Awesome. And I'm with the fabulous Somigliana. We must make sure to meet at some point :D